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Delivered By
Bob & Julie Petersen
Delivered On
August 14, 2016

1 Peter 4:12-19 NAS 12 Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; 13 but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation. 14 If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15 Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler; 16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name. 17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 and if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved, what will become of the godless man and the sinner? 19 Therefore, those also who suffer according to the will of God shall entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right.

The church has taught that when we come to Jesus everything is taken care of.

  • Forgiveness definitely is and demonic intrusion can be but only to the degree of repentance in that area

Julie: When you get to heaven the blood of Jesus is your legal access to forgiveness

  • On the earth you will followed by your appropriate actions, not the blood, is the legal access

We are in a time of the judgement of the church

  • This judgement is not on us but on those things connected to us.


  1. Jesus and the Courts of Heaven by Robert Henderson

Jesus set prayer in a courtroom setting. In Scripture we see references made to warfare and the battlefield. Yet in Jesus’ teaching on prayer in Matthew 6 and Luke 11, Jesus never placed prayer on a battlefield. He spoke of prayer as flowing from the relationship to a father. He spoke of prayer as a friend approaching a friend. Yet when dealing with the question of how to pray, Jesus never said we were on a battlefield. He did however place prayer in a courtroom or judicial setting. In Luke 18: 1-8, Jesus speaks of a widow who is seeking justice from a courtroom. Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart, saying:

“There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man. Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’ And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man, yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’” Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?” (Luke. 18: 1-8)

Clearly Jesus is declaring that when we pray, we are entering a courtroom. If this widow could get an answer and a verdict from an unjust judge through her persistent activity in a court, how much more shall we gain answers as the elect of God before the Righteous Judge of all. I think it is very interesting that Jesus spoke this parable so people would not give up on prayer. We must realize that a lack of results does not mean we need to put more effort into something. More effort without additional wisdom usually produces tiredness, fatigue and weariness. What we need is not more effort necessarily, but to learn secrets. Striving produces frustration while the revelation of secrets produces fruit. The mindset that we have had in the Church is flawed. What we are doing is not producing results, but we think that if we can just keep doing it long enough, loud enough or hard enough, then somehow, magically, something different will happen.

Before I entered the ministry, I worked at a meat packing plant where there were many illegal workers. This was before the government began to crack down on this practice. I was in the maintenance crew and was responsible for helping to keep the machines running and production at its maximum. The problem was that some of these workers didn’t care what they damaged in the process of doing their job. For instance, one day as a piece of equipment was being moved from one place to another, it had to go through a door. As they were pushing this machinery through the door, it became jammed and wouldn’t move. Instead of going around on the other side and seeing why it was stuck, they just called for more people to come and push harder. The result was they ‘broke’ it free, but damaged other things that were in the way. Their philosophy was the same as many in the Church. Why check and see why something is not working and stuck, when you can just use more effort? More effort is not always the answer. Many times the answer is the discovering of secrets through revelation that actually brings about a breakthrough with less effort and produces greater results. If we have done the same thing for years and it hasn’t improved, but in fact it has become even worse, maybe we should investigate. Someone once defined this as the definition of insanity. They said insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different to happen. We do not need more effort and striving, we need to discover secrets that unlock new dimensions that produce new results.

Julie: Fiery trials become locators for the blockages keeping you from your promises.

Julie: Each trial gives you an opportunity to seek again for the revelation to grow through that trial and receive the reward.

Acts 28:1-6 NKJV 1 Now when they had escaped, they then found out that the island was called Malta. 2 And the natives showed us unusual kindness; for they kindled a fire and made us all welcome, because of the rain that was falling and because of the cold. 3 But when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks and laid them on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4 So when the natives saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, "No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he has escaped the sea, yet justice does not allow to live." 5 But he shook off the creature into the fire and suffered no harm. 6 However, they were expecting that he would swell up or suddenly fall down dead. But after they had looked for a long time and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds and said that he was a god.

The fire exposes snakes in our lives

  • Notice that the snakes try to kill us when they’re exposed
    • But we’re promised protection in the process
      • Mark 16:18 NKJV they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them
        • take up (Gr) to lift up; by implication, to take up or away